Blank's Beginnings - Singapore's early season scrimmage

Hi all,

Background:
During pre-covid, Singapore was used to be known for our super early season tournament - SingVex (or Singapore VEX Robotics Championship).

Now with covid out of the way, we (the SG vrc community) are still hoping get something back on track.

So hence 8059 Blank. has decided to host this early season scrimmage and called it Blank’s Beginnings on 3 June 2024.

Think the obvious difference between SingVex and Blank’s Beginnings is definitely the size of the event - this year, we only have 13 teams (from 6 schools/academy) for the event (holiday has started about 1 week ago). But I would still think it is a decent size for a scrimmage.
But most importantly, the main objective of such an early season event is for teams to try out some of their designs and strategies, something like an advance proof-of-concepts.
The side objectives will be for beginning teams to learn from the more seasoned teams, and hopefully helped to kickstart their season.

Organisation and Refereeing:
As it is the 1st event that we held for this season, and with the lack of manpower, we have decided to plan with a 10-min match cycle with 2 playing fields and with matches livestreamed to the room where the pits were at.
13 teams and each getting 6 qualifying matches.
And then we had 6 alliances for the elimination matches - Bo1 except for the final which was Bo3.

The field setting was much faster than expected and the rings were definitely much easier to handle than the tri-balls. Lesser number of game elements to setup helped as well.

I don’t foresee much issues for the EPs organising events for this season.
Only one small thing to note (for those still using the old model of field perimeters) - the 2 neutral stakes tend to slant inwards. But I guess those using the new portable fields shouldn’t face this issue.

Referring is not difficult. Just need to keep a lookout on the possession limits.
The main problem that we faced was actually during scoring, eg. are the rings in the tipped over mobile goals touching the tiles? And also, unexpected huge mess of rings and mobile goals at the corners - which is touching the lines and which is not? And which is resting on which, etc?

Uploaded these 2 pics to show the difficulties that scorers will faced.


But I do think it is still a lot more manageable as compared to last season’s game.

About Robots and Gameplays
I want to emphasise that this was pretty early into the season - so most of the robots that were involved had less than a week to prep. So please don’t expect well-tuned robots for this event.

Nevertheless, here’s the compilation of the 3 final matches - https://youtu.be/9CNv-xzd1XY?si=Te3UtuuLDJAcqGYD

General robot design:
We have one pushbot with a very effective mobile goal clamp by 8076Z.
It has a ramp right in front and it was high disruptive - it can topple mobile goals easily and disrupt robots when trying to score on wall stakes. And if the opponents didnt have a good possession of the mobile goals, it will just steal them away.

We do have a few robots that made use of claws to pick up the rings and to score.
And we also have some that came with more complicated roller/conveyor belt intakes too.
End of the day - what really matters is whether you have good control/possession of the mobile goals. Coz it is so easy to be pushed around while trying to score. Traction wheels and blings wheels might helped a bit - but surprisingly, the design of the head of the stakes made scoring a lot more difficult as compared to Round-Up. Just a bit of misalignment, and most likely the rings will not go into the stakes.

I suspect we might see meta that are similar in idea to ITZ.

I didn’t see any teams managed to figure out a foolproof approach (yet) to score on the wall stakes. Most teams took too long to align to the wall stakes and they were pushed off by their opponents even before they get to score the rings into the stakes.

Another interesting thing that I have noticed - there were actually opportunities for teams to do a quick lowest tier hang.
This happened when all the 4 corners were already filled with rings or their alliance and opponents were all busy fighting in 1 corner.
But in general, hanging is pretty much an afterthought.

As usual, 8059A (Ri1w) and 8059Z (Ri3d) will be doing a robot reveal video.

I also want to use this opportunity to give a shoutout to:
8076A and Z - for coming with 2 well-thought through designs and amazing job that you guys have done (considering most likely you guys were still recuperating from your worlds trip).
35768A - a very very impressive design, especially for an early season event. And this followed right after your impressive design for this year singnat. Just need a bit of fine-tuning and aggressiveness in your strategy :slight_smile:
77789A - a good design and very well-built robot for so early in the season.

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Thanks for hosting this scrimmage, we had fun and also got a lot of ideas for better strategy (and also some ideas for keeping our robotics lab more organized xD ). I always like to see the diversity of designs in the early season.

Being able to score at least one ring on each mogo quickly was effective because of the extra 2 points of the top ring, as well as not having the risk of losing all points if the mogo is tipped over or the opponent moves it to the negative. Scoring wall stakes efficiently could be effective because it is much more difficult for the opponent to get rid of these points.

“don’t put all your eggs in one basket” to reduce the “high stakes”

Also, very interesting starting positions being used during elims. At the start of the match, each robot gets one preload that cannot start in a scored position. However, if a robot is contacting the ring, it is not considered scored, so you could just start with both alliance preloads on the alliance stake with the robots contacting it. All the robots have to do to score it is move a little away and it is a free 4 points.

Looking forward for the reveal :smiley:

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@meng we have a sg team here who needs some details cleared up and some help😅 once again sorry for the trouble and thank you in advance

Errmm… you lost me here.
What details are you referring to?

Whether there was is a sept Singvex, the question I asked.

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this is the question you asked. But it may not be the question that @79419 have in mind??

in any case, events details will be shared in the teacher/mentor chat group (which your teachers are inside as well).

VM, which is liaising with Sci Ctr regarding the Sept event will have the full picture.
But from what I heard, they couldnt get a competition space from Sci Ctr, so mostly likely there won’t be anything in September.

What are confirmed will be post-exam period (ie. November period).

2 Nov - All-Newcomers Meet (ANM). Hosted by Blank. and free registration
9 Nov - Singapore Open. Official event by VM and hosted at Singapore American School. There will be overseas teams joining as well. The plan is to slowly grow/evolve Singapore Open to become a signature event.

Do take note that 8059Blank. is not officially registered as an event partner. As such, we cannot host official events. We are just doing our part and at our level best to try to build up the V5RC environment in Singapore with some unofficial events and scrimmages, etc.
So if you are looking for official events, you will need to look for VM for details.

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hi, thanks for the info, however, does the ANM include any matches? and does it allow BRD to join as we are not competing officially?

ANM will be a mini-tournament for all the beginning teams. So definitely there will be matches, etc.
I have actually put it up in the teachers/mentors chat group. You might want to help to alert your mentor about it and let me know how many teams will be coming down.

Sorry - what is BRD ?
I am getting too old-school to understand some of these acronyms :stuck_out_tongue:

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Sorry for the confusion, I was bringing attention to the question that @Araphus.V had asked in this thread, as it had been sitting in the thread for two months unnoticed

Broadrick Secondary School.

Oh… they will definitely be invited. It is open to all new teams in Singapore.
I know Bukit Merah Secondary will be having 2 new teams joining us as well :slight_smile:

@meng , sorry about reviving this forum again. But will the ANM will include skills matches and will it also include judging, such as notebooking or there is none?

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Hi,

Nope - ANM will just be purely tournament.
Do remember that this is not an official event, the main objective is really to give some tournament experiences (and hopefully confidence) to the new teams :slight_smile:

But you are welcome to make use of the fields after the tournament to do your own skills runs practices.

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Hi Mr. Meng, im from 6546A, can we participate next year if you have something like this agian. btw, I would like to meet you next sing nat

I presume you meant next season and not next year?

But yes - we are definitely keen on having another Blank’s Beginning for the new season.
As usual - a lot depends on how fast VM can ship the new game elements over.

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